The sin of Balaam strikes again! We lost a big player in the Ventura County area. Brother "Haraam" (arabic: word for bad sins against God) was destined for great things (maybe the top?) until it was discovered he had a harem of lonely single and married sisters. How the Circuit took this on the chins in VC, "he was such a good speaker, he seemed so kind" (don't they always?)?
Bubblegum Apotheosis
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sacramento elder caught!
by the mole in***the mole*** a sacramento elder caught.
he steps down his position this last thursday.
it has come to our attention of a coverup that the brother in one of our kingdom halls this last week had stepped down for sleeping with another woman.
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did u know any jw self-made millionaires? any multi-millionaires?? how would u know???
by oompa inand what do you make of the overall social structures within the org?
and not just in the usa............................oompa.
it is not a caste system...you can move up the ranks.
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Bubblegum Apotheosis
Exjw, there is a dub who invented electronic-computer gadgets, think US Robotics, Seagate, Network Appliance brainiac. The very rich witnesses have learned to keep their mouth shut, and avoid ostenstation demonstrations of their wealth.
A fact of life, there are many posers who pretend to be wealthy in the congregation, a missed montly pay check and they are heading for BK. I wonder if there is a correlation between COBEs and filing bankruptcy?
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I think we are being shunned
by hoser init seems like lately we have been missing out on a lot of invites to congregation gatherings and our field service group has gatherings but we never seem to get invited.
btw this is not a bad thing.
hoser.
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Bubblegum Apotheosis
This means you were not shunned at one time, think of all the poor saps who attend meetings and field service for years. They were never invited to gatherings of the "righteous ones", poor friends had no spiritual rechargers to attach themselves to.
Ok now, If you want to avoid being shunned, learn a trade like plumbing, electrical, computer repair, finish carpentry, or small engine-appliance repairs. You might not get invited to a meal, but you are sure to get plenty of phone calls asking for free help!
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"Jehovah's organization provides the best education..."
by Gothicus indoesn't it just irritate you to the highest degree when someone makes a remark as stupid as this?
since when did "jehovah's education" ever taught you anything significant other than to be a tool and a slave for the wtb$?.
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Bubblegum Apotheosis
I wish they would guard the words they use, it was apparent this education is not helping in the field ministry. Witnesses are not comfortable engaging in basic door stoppers, propaganda worked well before we could check things on the internet!
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District Point 2 "People are phoning it in!" Slacking In The Ministry.
by Bubblegum Apotheosis inthere is something strange about this convention, the usual bombardment to hit the doors has not been talked about.
one of the points the speaker made, is people are not taking the ministry to the next level.
here are a few examples of the slackers, strangely i asked blondie about this in a recent thread.. i studied and learned from the same books, blondie mentioned "babylon the great has fallen", extra books "the two babylons", our brothers and sisters are losing their attention span.
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Bubblegum Apotheosis
There is something strange about this convention, the usual bombardment to hit the doors has not been talked about. One of the points the speaker made, is people are not taking the ministry to the next level. here are a few examples of the slackers, strangely I asked Blondie about this in a recent thread.
I studied and learned from the same books, Blondie mentioned "Babylon The Great Has Fallen", extra books "The Two Babylons", our brothers and sisters are losing their attention span. Where has all the zeal gone?
"Witnesses are not trying to overcome householder objections, they are more than happy to walk off with a defense."
"People are phoning it in, almost a autopilot, stasis, or stand-by mode" We are losing our skill set in field service, new and old are not able to overcome basic householder objections, our dubs don't want to debate, how can we rebuild our amry of locust?
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How Did You Handle Hatfields and Mccoys style Witnesses? Pure Hatred?
by Bubblegum Apotheosis indid any of you sisters or brothers ever help life long witness hatred disperse?
i know the five sisters who have not spoken in twenty five years, it's odd to see them give parts on circuit assemblies, or district assemblies knowing the dark hate that exist inside them.
these parts helped me realize that the organization is impotent in reigning in hatred with the rank and file.
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Bubblegum Apotheosis
Did any of you sisters or brothers ever help life long Witness hatred disperse? I know the Five Sisters who have not spoken in twenty five years, it's odd to see them give parts on Circuit Assemblies, or District Assemblies knowing the dark hate that exist inside them. These parts helped me realize that the Organization is impotent in reigning in hatred with the rank and file. I got myself shunned by two of "Five Sisters" for involving myself in their personal business! "No good deed goes unpunished!"
A refresher to young members who might have skipped past this part of history, here is a excert from Wiki
"The Hatfield-McCoy feud (1863-91) involved two families of the West Virginia-Kentucky area along the Tug Fork, off the Big Sandy River. The Hatfields of West Virginia were led by William Anderson "Devil Anse" Hatfield while the McCoys of Kentucky were under the leadership of Randolph "Ole Ran'l" McCoy. Those involved in the feud were descended from Ephraim Hatfield (born c. 1765) and William McCoy (born c. 1750). The feud has entered the American folklore lexicon as a metaphor for any bitterly feuding rival parties. More than a century later, the story of the feud has become a modern symbol of the perils of family honor, justice and vengeance."
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District Convention Points Saturday 21-07-2012 New Light? Governing Body Is Our Mother?
by Bubblegum Apotheosis ini have been trying to wrap my head around the talk that introduced the slave as our mother?
the brothers at bethel are worried that we are not treating our spiritual mother with respect.
jehovah is our father, the faithful slave (the governing body) is our spiritual mammy.
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Bubblegum Apotheosis
"Honor Your Mother", we need to show honor to our spiritual Mother, the annoited Slave. The pitch thrown my way by our speaker, was not the old "Revelation Climax Book" interpretation we were taught. It was made in no uncertain terms our "Spiritual Mother we need to honor" is none other than the faithful annointed Slave.
When I heard the talk begin, I was under the impression we were going to hear a nice lecture on taking care of our own Mums and Dads. No, not even close, we were told to honor the visible spirit annointed slave class as our Mum. I need to kick back and smoke a giant blunt, why should classic JW hypocrisy, the elusive carrot dangling in front of the horse (brotherly love), constant reminders we are one giant "loving family" bother me.
Corban is cool with your physical family, forget what Moses wrote in Exodus 20, focus on WTS 4.00.
"Time dedicated to the "Region Building Committee" cover's a multidue of sins" 1 WT 2:11
. "Mother loved her children so much, she reduced their homeworld to sixteen pages." WT 3:16
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How Many Billions Of Dollars Has The WTS Reaally Made Off Booking Hotels, Convention Centers?
by Bubblegum Apotheosis inafter reading balaams post, it got be thinking of the good old days of helping brothers negotiate hotel rates for district assemblies in san frannysisco, san diego, long beach, fresno areas.
how much did we make on kickbacks, trillions or quadtrillions of dollars!
we needed twenty armor cars to carry all that loot away!
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Bubblegum Apotheosis
After reading Balaams post, it got be thinking of the good old days of helping brothers negotiate hotel rates for District Assemblies in San Frannysisco, San Diego, Long Beach, Fresno areas. How much did we make on kickbacks, Trillions or Quadtrillions of dollars! We needed twenty armor cars to carry all that loot away!
All us brothers would take our share too, our contracts with the Organization demanded we receive "15 Percent Of The Pre-Adjusted Gross", that's Billions of Dollars! Our brothers and sisters did not mind the fact they were charged exorbitant prices, so we could live like gods! Hotels would provide a free golf course, beach front home, Hampton vacation. The list of perks is so long, it hard to remember all the freebies we made off with!
This is all before we had access to the price cutter Capital Kirk, now we use him to slash prices to the ground, we don't tell the friends about our arrangement with the "Price-line Negotiator" and all excess is donated to build the new site in New York's rural area.
Rumors are flying the Governing Body is now getting kick backs from Oil companies, Starbucks, MCDonald, Macy's and other's retailers our army of Witnesses frequent.
The shocking story is the new horse ranch being built with those 250 acres, the Governing Body is investing in dressage horses with their cut from the Hotal Business. I think every Witness or ExWitness has met someone who skims the cream off the top of the milk tank.
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For those in any doubt that the Society is at war with Facebook...
by cedars in...take a look at this from page 29 of the latest october 2012 awake!.
the gloves are now well-and-truly off.
referring to facebook as a "social networking website" clearly isn't working.. the society now feels compelled to start being more specific about which websites it doesn't want you to visit!.
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Bubblegum Apotheosis
If the Society wanted to go on the rampage they could start suing different people for libel. I know of a company that would sue people for the most petty online reviews of their products. Two friends of mine who had blogs, were taken to court twice, because the company claimed the "reviewers" were defaming their good name. The case was thrown out of court eventually, but it costed my friend $50,000 in legal fees. The judge did not make this company pay the legal fees for the defense, $50k down the drain and justice was never served. We have a relative freedom of speech, be aware that anything can happen my friends.
Cedars do you keep a "Liability Policy" that covers legal fees in case you are brought before a court? If you feel some of your threads push the limit, you might want to buy a "Umbrella Policy" covering yourself and your family from malicious prosecution.
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District Convention Points Saturday 21-07-2012 New Light? Governing Body Is Our Mother?
by Bubblegum Apotheosis ini have been trying to wrap my head around the talk that introduced the slave as our mother?
the brothers at bethel are worried that we are not treating our spiritual mother with respect.
jehovah is our father, the faithful slave (the governing body) is our spiritual mammy.
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Bubblegum Apotheosis
I have been trying to wrap my head around the talk that introduced the Slave as our Mother? The brothers at Bethel are worried that we are not treating our spiritual Mother with respect. Jehovah is our Father, the Faithful Slave (The Governing Body) is our spiritual Mammy. Could anyone here, or the witnesses attending the Convention be guilty of "Spiritual Corban"? "Did you know you have a Mother that loves you more than life itself??" the faithful slave is your mother on earth now!
Information that does not hold water or contain value. Looking around I could count ten different men in position who hate their kids, their mother, their father, their sister, their brother, their spiritual brothers, their spiritual sisters, their spiritual aunts, spiritual uncles, spirtual Grandp, spiritual Grandma, spiritual cousins, spiritual second cousins.
The point is, we must obey our Spiritual Mother, she is going to help lead us to waters of life. She is the being that gave birth to us, she changed our diapers as a child, worked to provide food for the table, cleaned our house, took care of Father! Spiritual Mother was the lady who we lived off, when our financial troubles through us into Bankruptcy, she is the real lady! The Hell with physical parents, spiritual Mother is all that shoud be on our minds!